Why do people use Bible to argue against gay marriage?

December 28, 2013 | By

Question by Kenny: Why do people use Bible to argue against gay marriage?
Many opponents of gay marriage use Bible to argue against gay marriage.I do understand that gay marriage goes against their religion; however, it is a fact that Bible is a religious book. Since the U.S. is not a theocracy, how could the argument be valid?

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Image by jcoterhals
After yesterday's misanthropic view on love -- my rather cruel and unusual picture "Divorce" -- I today return to my roots: The cliché.

(Update: When done reading this, have a look at my "Marriage Revisited" photo as well)

This photo is yet another attempt to follow the #TwPhCh group (Twitter Photo Challenge) here on Flickr. This week's challenge is "rundt" which is norwegian for both round/circular and around.

Here I've used all the cliché's possible: Love, circle of life, the bible, etc. The Bible is even open at the end of chapter 13 of Paul's letter to the Corinthians. You know the quote: "And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love" (1 Corinthians 13:13).

But even so: It's a beautiful quote, and I cannot help but feel that the combination of elements looks rather good. Even though we all have seen these kinds of pictures before.

Technical data:

Shot with a cheap 70-300 mm tele zoom with 1:2 macro capabilites. That lens is pleasantly soft.

A flash is place a couple of meters behind and a meter above the ring, pointing down towards the book. The distance is big enough to create harsh shadows. The flash was gelled with a CTO filter to emulate sunset light.

ISO 100, manual exposure, 1/60 and f/8.0. TTL on flash, no compensation. The external flash was triggered by a flash on camera. No flash output from the on-camera flash. I actually thought the sunset effect was too obvious after processing the picture, so I desaturated the picture just a little in Photoshop Elements before uploading it here.

BTW: The ring's the same as on yesterday's picture. But I think the ring likes to model for this picture better than the last :-)

Update: The day after posting this I reached #273 on Explore (May 25), reached #111 the day after that and #57 on day three. Best after that: #50. It's been fun following this development; I think I've learned something about the Interestingness algorithm along the way. Anyway, thanks to everyone who has commented this picture and favorited it.

Update 2: I got third place in this week's Twitter Photo Challenge with this picture. Thanks to everyone who voted for my picture.

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Comments (19)

  1. Mithra

    Because the words in the bible are anti-gay, both OT and NT.

    The better question is, Why do people use Bible to argue ANYTHING?

  2. God not applicable

    Because many religious people think and assume that Gods law supersedes mans law

  3. Michael K

    They think it’s a valid argument. They’ve used the same tactic against interracial marriage as well and it didn’t work.

  4. A Canadian Atheist

    Because that is the ONLY argument available to them and their bigotry.

    There are NO logical or rational arguments to denying same sex couples a basic civil right like marriage.

  5. Holy

    Agree, The Holy Bible does teach against gay marriage, but it also teaches free will of mankind. If men and women read the Holy Bible and understood the rules, and continue to practice same sex marriage, we should not judge them, but still love them.

  6. NewlyBorn

    Hardly anybody reads the WHOLE BIBLE!

    Christians won’t admit that the God that they worship is split on the Gay issue!

    Zeph 2:9
    Therefore as I live, saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel, Surely MOAB shall be as SODOM… a PERPETUAL DESOLATION.

    ==
    Zepheniah worships a homophobic GOD swearing that SODOM is a PERPETUAL DESOLATION.

    Ezekiel is worshipping a different God swearing that SODOM will be UNCONDITIONALLY RESTORATED!

    Christians can worship either God, they are both the same.

    Zepheniah and Ezekiel use their own FREE WILL describing their God’s attitude on anything, exactly like the powerful CLERGY does today.

    Only sworn statements are of any value in the Bible stories.

    Heb 6:13
    …since there was no one greater for God to swear by, he swore by himself*
    (*Jesus and God swear telling the truth all the time, but it is a SIN for Christians to declare anything UNDER OATH –Mat5:34-37. Christians swearing with the right hand on the Bible do it only for political reasons)

    Eze 16
    :48-49
    AS SURELY AS I LIVE, declares the Sovereign LORD, your sister SODOM never did what you and your daughters have done*
    (*SODOM NEVER DID what JERUSALEM and other Jewish Cities have done! Christianity TOTALLY rejects God’s SWORN statement that JERUSALEM is far more sinful than SODOM ever was -Judg19-21)

    ”Now this was the sin of your sister SODOM:*
    (*sister city)

    She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy*
    (*Neither God the Father nor God the Son Jesus Christ ever mentioned that the sin of SODOM was homosexuality!)

    :53
    “However, I* (*God) WILL RESTORE the fortunes of SODOM…*
    (*but Zepheniah’s God is also declaring under oath that it will be A PERPETUAL DESOLATION! Most Christians are trained to embrace Zepheniah’s God)

    :55
    And your sisters, SODOM with her daughters… WILL RETURN TO WHAT THEY WERE BEFORE…*
    (*Ezekiel’s God is under oath declaring that SODOM will be unconditionally RESTORED! The Sodomites were not perverts! Sodom must be restored soon before the end of the World!)

    Gen 18:20-21
    Then the LORD said, “The outcry against SODOM is so great… that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know.”*
    (*Most likely God was too drunk when he destroyed SODOM and didn’t know what he was doing -Psa78:65)

    ==
    Jesus is favoring SODOM all along.

    Mat 10:15
    I tell you the truth*
    (*Jesus is NOT BULL CRAPPING)

    …it will be more bearable for SODOM… on the Day of Judgment than for that town.

    Mar 6:11 (KJV)
    Verily I say unto you*
    (*I swear)

    It shall be more tolerable for SODOM… in the Day of Judgment, than for that city.

    Luc 10:12)
    I tell you*
    (*NO BULL CRAP)

    it will be more bearable on that day for SODOM than for that town.

    ==
    As a Judge, Jesus is too candid and a bit too unethical telling everybody “THE TRUTH” about his future trial proceedings, and especially that SODOM will score much better than most Jewish cities, including Jerusalem (Eze16:48-55)!

    Mat 11:23-24
    And thou, Capernaum shalt be brought down to Hell: FOR IF the mighty works, which have been done in thee, had been done in SODOM, it would have remained UNTIL THIS DAY*
    (*”FOR IF” Jesus Christ is confessing that his Father GOD committed an ACT OF GROSS NEGLIGENCE IN SODOM! God KNEW the kind of works needed in SODOM to help them SURVIVE until this day, but he failed to act, so how trustworthy is this Savior GOD? HE OUGHT TO BE SUED!)

    But I say unto you*
    (*Jesus swears, NO BULL CRAP!)

    That it shall be more tolerable for SODOM in the Day of Judgment, than for thee*
    (*Jesus is fixing his Daddy’s error in the destruction of SODOM, he will be MORE LENIANT to the SODOMITES than to the CURSED JEWS that he came to save and be their king)

    Mat 25:41
    Depart from me, YE CURSED*
    (*for robbing GOD! –Mal3:9-10)

    into everlasting fire, prepared for the Devil and his angels*
    (*only Jews are cursed! God never cursed the Sodomites)

    ==
    Will Christians APPLAUD Jesus for favoring the SODOMITES instead of the CURSED JEWS, at the Judgment Day?

    But wait a minute!

    1 Cor 6:2
    Do ye not know that THE SAINTS SHALL JUDGE THE WORLD?*
    (*Saint Paul KNOWS that Christians will be JUDGING THE WORLD, not the BASTARD Jesus Christ!)

    ==
    A few verses earlier (1Cor5:1-2), a young man was having some wild sex with his own mother and the WHOLE CHURCH was proud of them!

    Saint Paul reprimanded ONLY THE ABUSED KID, not the Holy Clergy or his horny mom. This same kind of Christians WILL JUDGE THE WORLD!

    Practically ALL THE BIBLE STORIES support pedophilia and child abuse.

    PREACHERS NEVER quote a verse in the Bible against child abuse because there isn’t any!

    Obviously, the Judgment Day event is a joke to scare Christians into submission to the Clergy!

  7. Fiery Phoenix

    Because those people don’t understand that not everyone follows their intolerant religion.

  8. grayure

    The Bible is not specifically against gay marriage. It never mentions it and the idea that there are gay people rather than homosexual desires and acts is an invention of capitalist society. Since the Ancient World was not capitalist, it is not possible to use the Bible as a valid argument against gay marriage unless one also wishes to argue against all marriage.

  9. Charmed Ages

    Because the majority are still Christians and so it only makes sense to use a Christian viewpoint.

  10. Badwolf

    no one liked to be considered hate filled for no apparent reason ..so the bible validates it

  11. Fireball

    THERE IS no such thing…fornication and lust is what it is…why do you care what we do? try myths…all humans are sinning..do you want to allow stealing too?

  12. Chance

    well separation of church and state should require the government to stop controlling a religious observance, which is essentially what marriage is…a religious rite.

  13. Christian Orthodoxy is the Truth

    1. Just because it’s a religious argument doesn’t render it automatically invalid as a point in a larger argument

    2. Many are afraid he state will force the church to desanctify marriage before God by making them allow homosexual unions which are not ordained as valid before God

    @God not applicable: it DOES though

  14. Alexis

    “Since the U.S. is not a theocracy, how could the argument be valid?”

    It isn’t.

    “There’s an issue regarding religious opposition to same-sex marriage that I’m hoping some people who take that position can clarify for me.

    When you say that same-sex couples should not be allowed to marry because it’s a “sin”, or because “God opposes it”, or any other similar argument, are you *unaware* that your personal religious beliefs are not a valid legal justification for denying groups of American citizens the Constitutionally-guaranteed equal rights that the 14th Amendment affords them?

    Or do you simply *dislike* this fact?

    Being unaware of this fact, or pretending that the fact doesn’t exist simply because you dislike it, are the only two logically possible explanations for proposing religious arguments against same-sex marriage. Bear in mind, I am referring here to marriage, the secular legal contract between two consenting adults and the State; the kind performed by a judge in a court of law. The religious matrimonial union that most churches refer to as “marriage” is a completely separate issue and is both entirely immaterial to and beyond the scope of this question.”

  15. Weeping Angel

    A couple reasons.
    A) marriage is a religious institution. Not solely religious, of course, a large part of it is secular, and secular marriages can be completely separated from religious ones. But still, religious marriages exist.

    B) because it’s a moral issue. If you support gay marriages, you are, at least in a slight manner, supporting gay people and gay people sleeping with each other. They find gay sex to be wrong partially and, for some, largely, from the bible, so, naturally, they would in no way support it.

  16. Jemmaxx

    Like it or not society is based on Christianity. Think about it. There are seven days of the week, this originates from the seven days of creation. People consider it wrong to have an affair, to lie, to steal, to murder, when children are young most parents teach them that swearing is wrong, young children are taught to respect their parents and people are expected to have a certain standard of morals. All of these things are taught in the bible and are widely accepted in today’s society. Even if a country is not officially a Christian country in general (this includes the USA) the society expects people to meet the Christian values. Society is built on these laws, whether they are written or unwritten, and without them there would be anarchy. Since society is built on the teaching of Christ when it comes to debates, such as this one, the bible most certainly does have a say.

  17. e0

    Homosexual activity is a sin. You can know this for certain by praying the rosary carefully every day.

    http://www.medjugorje.org/rosary.htm

    The fifteen promises of Mary to Christians who recite the rosary:
    1. Whoever shall faithfully serve me by the recitation of the Rosary shall receive signal graces.
    2. I promise my special protection and the greatest graces to all those who shall recite the Rosary.
    3. The Rosary shall be a powerful armor against Hell, it will destroy vice, decrease sin, and defeat heresies.
    4. It will cause virtue and good works to flourish; it will obtain for souls the abundant mercy of God; it will withdraw the hearts of men from the love of the world and its vanities and will lead them to the desire of eternal things. Oh, that souls would sanctify themselves by this means.
    5. The soul which recommends itself to me by the recitation of the Rosary, shall not perish.
    6. Whoever shall recite the Rosary devoutly, applying himself to the consideration of its sacred mysteries, shall never be conquered by misfortune. God will not chastise him in His justice, he shall not perish by an unprovided death; if he be just, he shall remain in the grace of God and become worthy of eternal life.
    7. Whoever shall have a true devotion for the Rosary shall not die without the Sacraments of the Church.
    8. Those who are faithful to recite the Rosary shall have during their life and at their death the light of God and the plenitude of His graces; at the moment of death, they shall participate in the merits of the saints in Paradise.
    9. I shall deliver from Purgatory those who have been devoted to the Rosary.
    10. The faithful children of the Rosary shall merit a high degree of glory in Heaven.
    11. You shall obtain all you ask of me by the recitation of the Rosary.
    12. All those who propagate the Holy Rosary shall be aided by me in their necessities.
    13. I have obtained from my Divine Son that all the advocates of the Rosary shall have for intercessors the entire Celestial Court during their life and at the hour of death.
    14. All who recite the Rosary are my sons, and brothers of my only Son, Jesus Christ.
    15. Devotion to my Rosary is a great sign of predestination.

  18. joseph8638

    Those things that oppose one’s religion inevitability give rise to its defense. Christians believe the Bible, and the Bible calls homosexuality an abomination to God. There is no connection government.

  19. Drake

    It is valid because they have the right to vote based on their opinions which can be based on religion. Just as one person may chose to consider homosexuality as “who you are” another can choose to consider their religion as “who they are”. With that both individuals have equal right to debate and vote their opinion.

    If you are trying to say that religious people should not be able to vote based on what they read and choose be believe then perhaps others should not be allowed to voted based on what they choose to believe either.